We tried to find them on replacements and couldn't. Thank you for the suggestion. Anywhere you can think of? We're not sure if they are worth more than $2.00 or not?
Yes they are worth more than what you paid. They are very nice pieces. The mark is from 1896 + and before 1906 , thats the year they started using "ltd".
I agree on the pricing at Replacements Ltd, I have bought there but it is to complete sets that I personally intend to keep. I also want to point out that the search technology at Replacements Ltd is as old as their china. While geared for dial-up access the website is outdated and inefective for broadband. You could try searching at Google shopping with the minus replacements syntax.
If you contact Replacements Ltd and ask them to identify the piece which they will do, they will issue a number which might have no real relation to the actual pattern name when the piece was manufactured, if indeed there was a pattern name. Much depression glass has "trade pattern names" that were not in use when the glass was made but has evolved over time as slang.
As a generalization start with the "plate shape" and stamp/backstamp/mark and identify that, then go for the pattern.
You can also check the local library to see if they can pull in intra-library loans of books that might have your pattern in it from a search of Amazon.
And finally you might seek an expert in a particular area or manufacturer. Of the literally 100's of thousands of patterns it is impossible to identify all of them and some are known by manufacturer and listed as "mystery" pieces.
Some decals are deemed "mystery pieces" if the manufacturer used parts of two decals to create a unique decal run of pattern pieces, Homer Laughlin did this with their decals and though the plate pattern and the numbering can be identified the actual pattern is listed as "mystery."
I try and point people in the right direction but there are pieces that I have not identified and even soliciting experts and specialists remain stumped.
There are three items I would offer a Paypal bounty on for identification but I await the periodocals Wheeling Glass 1829-1939: Collection of the Oglebay Institute Glass Museum and books by Arlene Schleiger instead.
There are some good apraisals done here for the price paid, but even offering to pay for professional research doesn't garuntee a result.
Hope that helps.
Look.. I posted hoping that KathyBeh would look at some Limoges that I know are 1903 by the mark with underlined Theodore, but still haven't the pattern. You have to go to the experts even if they are deceased, I'll look to Arlene Schleiger for my answer.
Dee... I do not give values on something unless I know the value by comparisons I find online. Unlike Lovejoy who is in the auction business, I have no idea of value on most pieces. I can give information/history if I know it or have access to it in a book or online just like anyone can. If I have the time and inclination to do so I will. I know more about English pottery because that is what I collect.
The Limoge you refer to is as foreign to me as it is to you and both of us have the same access to the internet for research.
I do this because I enjoy it. I am not employed by this site, I just stumbled on it one day while researching my own antiques.
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
http://www.replacements.com/china/MAD.htm?s1=KX&1681827&
You might take the time to identify the pattern here. Identified pieces are typically more valuable than pretty pieces.
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
Replacements is a good site for identification, but their prices are totally out to lunch.
Lovejoy
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
We tried to find them on replacements and couldn't. Thank you for the suggestion. Anywhere you can think of? We're not sure if they are worth more than $2.00 or not?
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
Yes they are worth more than what you paid. They are very nice pieces. The mark is from 1896 + and before 1906 , thats the year they started using "ltd".
A pattern would help find the exact date.
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
I agree on the pricing at Replacements Ltd, I have bought there but it is to complete sets that I personally intend to keep. I also want to point out that the search technology at Replacements Ltd is as old as their china. While geared for dial-up access the website is outdated and inefective for broadband. You could try searching at Google shopping with the minus replacements syntax.
http://www.google.com/products?q=John+Maddock+%26+Sons+china+-replaceme…
If you contact Replacements Ltd and ask them to identify the piece which they will do, they will issue a number which might have no real relation to the actual pattern name when the piece was manufactured, if indeed there was a pattern name. Much depression glass has "trade pattern names" that were not in use when the glass was made but has evolved over time as slang.
As a generalization start with the "plate shape" and stamp/backstamp/mark and identify that, then go for the pattern.
You can also check the local library to see if they can pull in intra-library loans of books that might have your pattern in it from a search of Amazon.
And finally you might seek an expert in a particular area or manufacturer. Of the literally 100's of thousands of patterns it is impossible to identify all of them and some are known by manufacturer and listed as "mystery" pieces.
Some decals are deemed "mystery pieces" if the manufacturer used parts of two decals to create a unique decal run of pattern pieces, Homer Laughlin did this with their decals and though the plate pattern and the numbering can be identified the actual pattern is listed as "mystery."
I try and point people in the right direction but there are pieces that I have not identified and even soliciting experts and specialists remain stumped.
There are three items I would offer a Paypal bounty on for identification but I await the periodocals Wheeling Glass 1829-1939: Collection of the Oglebay Institute Glass Museum and books by Arlene Schleiger instead.
There are some good apraisals done here for the price paid, but even offering to pay for professional research doesn't garuntee a result.
Hope that helps.
Look.. I posted hoping that KathyBeh would look at some Limoges that I know are 1903 by the mark with underlined Theodore, but still haven't the pattern. You have to go to the experts even if they are deceased, I'll look to Arlene Schleiger for my answer.
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
Dee... I do not give values on something unless I know the value by comparisons I find online. Unlike Lovejoy who is in the auction business, I have no idea of value on most pieces. I can give information/history if I know it or have access to it in a book or online just like anyone can. If I have the time and inclination to do so I will. I know more about English pottery because that is what I collect.
The Limoge you refer to is as foreign to me as it is to you and both of us have the same access to the internet for research.
I do this because I enjoy it. I am not employed by this site, I just stumbled on it one day while researching my own antiques.
Have a great day.
Re: John Maddock & Sons china
hey www.thepotterie.org/m/maddock.html has the answer